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04/18/2007 11:06 AM  

We Need More Gun Control!

 

 

            Even before the blood has dried groups like the Brady Campaign were literally dancing in the halls and using the tragedy at Virginia Tech. to appeal for more funds. And of course their lapdogs in the media were calling for greater control and using the usual suspects to promote their cause. My journey from the left towards the right began with the issue of gun control. When my wife and I returned to Utah, the State Legislature was in the process of changing the law for concealed carry permits. I remember agreeing with the Major Media that blood would flow in the streets over road rage or other similar incidents. When this didn’t happen, and gun violence in Utah did not increase, I began to wonder why I had thought the way I did. I began to study the issue of gun control and slowly changed in my world view.

            I was shocked to learn how the pro gun control crowd routinely lies and how the press repeats their lies unquestioningly. I learned what a failure gun control has been all over the world and that there is absolutely no correlation between the amount of firearm ownership and gun violence. That countries like Switzerland, Norway and Israel, who have very high gun ownership, also have very low incidents of gun violence. That other countries like Russia, Estonia and Taiwan who have strict gun control have even higher rates of murder than the US. I learned that England, Australia and even Canada after passing strict gun control suffered from skyrocketing rates of violent crime. Those US cities like New York, Chicago and Washington DC who have strict gun control laws suffer from much higher rates of violence and murder.

            I was shocked to learn how different medical advocacy groups relied on very shoddy science and statistics to argue for GC. I began to notice how the Major Media distorted the issue consistently and showed a clear bias on how they treated the issue. Hillary and others like her would us loaded phrases like “proliferation of firearms” to explain gun violence when as the number of guns owned increased in this country we entered the lowest amount of violent crime and murder in the past thirty years. I learned how the Brady Campaign and other groups would knowingly lie to promote their cause and how an obedient press would ignore this while demonizing groups like the NRA. I watched movies and television and noticed how much they promoted the idea of gun control while at the same time glorifying incredible violence. Over time it became increasingly obvious that most gun laws didn’t reduce crime but often lead to more gun crime and victimization of law-abiding citizens.

            I learned that gun control often leads to genocide. During the twentieth century a noted historian has documented that at least 175 million civilians have been murdered by their own government or its agents and that without exception, actions like this were always preceded by gun control. That the single provable law that would reduce violent crime was passage of “shall issue gun permit laws.” I also learned that at least seventeen academic studies indicated that somewhere between 2-2.5 million crimes were prevented by civilian gun ownership and that interviewed felons feared a civilian with a gun far more than the police. Statistics also prove that CCP holders are the safest users of firearms, having a vastly superior record of safety, even than the police. I also learned that many people make up their minds solely based upon emotion and do not want to be confused with the facts.

            The saddest thing I learned was how bankrupt much of our academic community have become. That books like Arming America were readily embraced by this community even though they were a total fraud. I learned how unprincipled groups like the ACLU, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and others distorted the meaning of the second amendment for their own twisted ends. During the last fifteen years I have made a 180 degree turn in my political views. I find myself saying and believing things that twenty years ago I could never have imagined. I have left many friends and associates behind because they could not accept my reasoning and rigidly clung to their own beliefs. While friendship should be based upon greater things than ideology, for many, if you do not agree with them then they despise you.  And most of all I learned that while we have gained some technological understanding we are not much advanced from our ancestors of old. That human nature has changed very little. Sad indeed.

 

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04/18/2007 9:32 PM  
It is funny how the ACLU will protect the so called rights of someone to murder a child yet they won't defend the rights of someone to protect themselves. These people selectively defend progressive rights but not traditional rights that are actually protected by the constitution.

You watch, the gun control debate is going to come up again because of the Virginia Tech shooting by this sick terrorist. Utah State University is actually in violation of the 2nd amendment and the laws of the State of Utah by not allowing guns in housing. Of all places for someone to have the right to protect themselves, it should be where they live!

I just hope the assault weapons ban never sees the light of day again! Lets all be aware, the Demolitionists (Democrats) who control the House and Senate will try what they can to destroy the second amendment.

The good news is that there is an increase in people getting their concealed weapons permit.
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04/19/2007 9:43 AM  
Congressman McCarthy has already introduced a new Assault Weaspons Ban which is far more restrictive than the previous. They will never stop. There is no evidence whatsoever that he reduced crime one iota. Actually, students can keep a gun in their dorm room. Potential roomates can insist on living with someone who doesn;t have a gun. These to me seems reasonable.
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04/19/2007 10:59 AM  
this is just stupid. No, not your point of view. That democrats think gun control will help reduce violent crime. I don't own a gun myself. I live in the safest place in the country and I don't hunt, so... what's the point? (That's a rhetorical question, don't answer it).

I personally like about 1/2 the things the ACLU does. I like civil liberties, call me an "unprincipled leftist." But to take people's guns away to protect them is just plain silly (not to mention a restriction of civil liberties). And it could never, ever work in this country. If every registered gun in america was destroyed, there would still be well over 10,000,000 guns on the streets of this country (probably a lot more, I don't have the numbers...). That doesn't sound like safety. (I think safety, I think sweden, where everyone has to join the military, everyone has a gun and knows how to use it, and less than 100 gun homocides happen annually. Of course, they also have an excellent economy and almost no one lives in poverty... so I guess there's two major reasons for that country being so incredibly safe)

It's commonly said by gun enthusiasts that "A well armed populace is the best defense against tyranny." I do not agree entirely (which is not to say I entirely disagree)... I'd say the best defense against tyranny is a well-informed populace. The right to bear arms would come in 2nd... (hey, kinda like how the 1st and 2nd ammendments go in that order!) but that's just my opinion...
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04/19/2007 4:36 PM  
Ineffable, on this issue, I couldn't agree more with you. You hit it right on!

I just fear this Virginia Tech shooting could come and try to bite us. John (Gunrights) is right, I don't think it will go away. We have to stand up for the 2nd ammendment.

Good thread!

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